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Sam
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:57 am  Reply with quote

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My band have their last gig on friday and i really want to use my favourite guitar which i managed to break at the last gig we played.

if it helps, its an ESP MH250 left handed in the old style shape.

Basically, one of the soldered wires on the input/jack has come off and the wire is small, and the hole in the body where the input sits is deep....and i cant get to the stupid wire to re-solder it...

Anyone have any tips/techniques/obvious stuff im missing they could let me know about? Alternatively, i am happy to fork out some cash if someone can have it fixed and in good working order for Friday....

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:09 am  Reply with quote

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Neil_Roy on here may be able to help you - he's got the leccy skillz, but I'm not sure how often he checks his PMs. Worth a try....
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Sam wrote:
Anyone have any tips/techniques/obvious stuff im missing they could let me know about? Alternatively, i am happy to fork out some cash if someone can have it fixed and in good working order for Friday....


I'm praying you mean you've taken the backplate off and the jack is deep in the routing from that side... when I just read your post I had a vision of you trying to do it from the outside through a 1/4" jack socket...

The easiest way to do it is to unscrew the jack (if you can), pull it a couple of inches out of the body along with the wire, and solder it there. On ESPs the jacks are a normally nightmare to screw back in though, so avoid doing that if you can. That's assuming you can't reach it from the inside (which would mean either a really short socket, or a really thick bit of routing - neither of which is typical of an ESP).

If you want, I could have a look at it for you. I've completely re-wired my ESP, and the MH has the same schematic.

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as steve has said, if you take the backplate off the input and then pull the jack back through the normal wire compartment which contains the pots etc then you should be able to solder it back up easily, most guitars give enough wire to move bits about etc so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Okay ill explain what ive done so far, as ive had this problem over the years with other guitars and ive never had such hassle trying to remedy it.

I've unscrewed all the jack socket parts and pulled the jack out of the hole (not snapped wires etc, just eased it out to get to it) - and there is no way i can get the jack/wirng parts from their hole int othe main back area with the pots and rest of the wires..the hole leading between is far too small, just big enough for the wires. The wire thats snapped is also too small/far down into the body (even if i pull the wires as far out as i can get them) to get at in order to solder it to the jack again...

make sense?

cheers for the replies, but i have done most of what youre suggesting (unless im misunderstanding it) and its simply too small/awkward to get at. and taking it out of the jack hole doesnt seem to be an option, unless i rip the other wire off...
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there is one other option although it is more time consuming, that would be to cut the wires from the jack socket and thus disconnecting it so you can take it out. then rewiring with longer wire and re-soldering all of the joints that the wires were attached to.
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Hmm can't you pull the wire from the backplate / pots so that you pull the wire back out and then rewire it anew?
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Right, the first thing to try is this: detach the other end of the wire (inside the guitar), pull it out of the hole far enough to resolder the other end to the jack, then pull it back into the guitar and see if it'll reach where it was originally attached.

The only thing you can do replace it with a new bit that's long enough to give you some slack. If you take it to Maplin or a hardware store or something, they should be able get you a piece the same gauge etc. - it shouldn't cost much.

Detaching the jack from the second wire is pointless, because the wire still won't be long enough to get out of the hole, which is where it needs to be.

I can't believe there isn't enough slack on the wire though - have you had something done internally to the guitar before? I've changed p'ups in a few ESPs and they've never been lacking in wire before. Weird Cuckoo

How the Hell did you break the damn thing in the first place if it's so neatly placed? Is one of your pots loose?

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shity nut on the jack meant it was lose and that guitar is totally my preference, as i was at a gig i decided i would just gaffa it to fuck and hope for the best. it broke.

had to use nasty floating bridge ibanez. now im eager to fix it haha

thanks for the advice
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