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Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 4696 Location: aylsham
afternoon all,
i have got a bit of a problem when it comes to ripping my cds to mp4s for use on my mobile phone (sony ericsson k800i, i use it as my mp3 player). i currently rip them using nero but there seems to be no id tags on the mp4s so when it comes to playing them on my phone they come up as unknown artist, thus i have to create a playlist for every album but selecting each track, it takes far too long.
does anyone know of a way around this so that the detail tags work on the phone?
any help i appreciated.
thanks,
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Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Posts: 5138 Location: At the bottom of the garden, amongst the birds and the bees
Aye, MP4 is an odd choice of format - it's a catch-all and not an encoding format really, you can use it to store audio or video (even with subtitles and stuff I believe) in pretty much any format. Audio saved as MP4 will still probably be encoded as MP3s anyway.
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Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 4696 Location: aylsham
i just find that the mp3s encoded at such a low rate don't have as good sound quality as the mp4s when played through my k800i.
will try that out froggy, thanks. _________________ -one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter-
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Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 4696 Location: aylsham
i only have a 1gb card for my phone and i like a good selection of mp3s, hence the low bitrate. _________________ -one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter-
Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 4696 Location: aylsham
i have just tried the musicbrainz site and their tags don't seem to work either. _________________ -one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter-
Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 4696 Location: aylsham
clydefrog wrote:
That's mp4 bollocks for you then
i think it is the software on my phone as i have just tried some mp3s on my phone and none of them seemed work with the player with regards to the id tags. fuck knows how i am going to get around this, _________________ -one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter-
i just find that the mp3s encoded at such a low rate don't have as good sound quality as the mp4s when played through my k800i.
will try that out froggy, thanks.
correct me if I'm wrong but a mobile phone isnt exactly going to do your tracks justice anyway....
Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 4696 Location: aylsham
craig_unknown wrote:
scottyjimb wrote:
i just find that the mp3s encoded at such a low rate don't have as good sound quality as the mp4s when played through my k800i.
will try that out froggy, thanks.
correct me if I'm wrong but a mobile phone isnt exactly going to do your tracks justice anyway....
depends on the qaulity of the mp3 encoding, when i am listening to music through the headphones on my phone with a 192kbps encoding, it is the same as listening to a cd through my headphones. _________________ -one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter-
Joined: Feb 13, 2005 Posts: 3962 Location: The Rock Boudoir
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192kbps is nowhere near CD quality, and it really depends on the headphones (as well as you own ears!) you have as to whether you can hear the difference.
CDs are 16bit recordings at 44.1 kHz. That's 44100 16-bit 'words' per second. WIth a bit of maths, that works out at 705600 bits per second. Your mp3s are at 192000 bits per second.
Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Posts: 5138 Location: At the bottom of the garden, amongst the birds and the bees
scottyjimb wrote:
i just find that the mp3s encoded at such a low rate don't have as good sound quality as the mp4s when played through my k800i.
will try that out froggy, thanks.
Like I said before - mp4 has nothing to do with the actual encoding algorithm. An mp3 and mp4 at the same bitrate are encoded in exactly the same way, so the quality whould be all but identical.
as for the tag thing - make sure your using ID1 tage and not ID2. Some mp3 decoders don't like the ID2 tage because they take up too much room.
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